I am Proud of Our Woman Marines and the contributions they have made to the Corps! Just like the male Marines they also are 0311 first and foremost. The only difference is gender!
During the TET Offensive in Vietnam many a WM used their weapons with extreme accuracy and proficiency!�
Women Marines are Highly trained, motivated killing machines just like there male counter parts.

Marines are Marines no matter their gender!

Semper Fi.!
 

You nailed it

Weird, how i strongly disagree, and so would like 89% of other women. Just Because YOU may feel all those emotions doesn’t mean every women does. We can get past not being a man, but achieving to be as strong, if not stronger than a man ALL mentally, physically, and emotionally. So speak for yourself cause a ton of women have been joining the military in all branches and proving we ARE just as good, if not better in some aspects. Be as it may that women can not join some fields of the military, It’s not like men are the only ones who go to boot camp, or watch their best friend die, or even shot someone. Welcome to the 21 century, women don’t rely on men anymore, we fight beside them.

McClure, don’t use your real name on forums. You got kicked out of a program for not being dedicated and now you are a happy, hairy civilian. I don’t know if you still plan to serve in this country’s military, but if you do, being traced back to a forum like this (if significant changes were to be made in the future in favor of females in combat) it would not be a good look for you.

There just isn’t enough women capable of doin all the duties required. I’m sure there are some that might beable to meet the physical requirements but VERY few.. A women’s brain is much different than men, that being said women react more emotional than men when making decisions men think more rational. Its a proven fact read a psychology book. To be infantry you need to have a very aggressive mindset, and sorry to burst ur bubble but most women aren’t aggressive its simply not in there nature.At a young age girls are taught to be a certain way they play with dolls while boys play with gi joes.blame western society. There r way more reason and its plain and simple the army doesn’t want to have women in combat roles just b/c 1 out 100,000 women has what it takes. MEN are far more superior sounds mean but true sry. I’m infantry and I wouldnt feel nearly as confident in battle knowing some girls is watching my back I’m sure alot would agree. I can’t stand women with all their equality BS. Do u honestly believe some 120 lb girl can carry the same weight rack sack 120lbs for more than a few mins at a time? If u say yes sorry but ur kidding urself. As a whole women aren’t cut out for being straight killing machines they arent genetically designed for warfare. Too many of u girls have been watching GI Jane!

Well I can assure you as a man that i can go without showering or cleaning myself in anyway for months at a time and not get an infection (when i was a kid, ya i know gross), can women say the same thing?

Maybe you should realize that the physical standards for women are already lower than men in the military, you aren’t trying to change the standards you already have and if you want to serve at the front its in the best interests of the woman and the soldier next to her that she not get ANY special treatment.  If that means coed showers, barracks, bathrooms, and no “sanitation breaks” that’s what it means and women need to realize they can’t just complain until they get all the benefits of being a man in the military and none of the disadvantages.

I just don’t get it, as a man I don’t understand why certain women are so hell bent on serving on the front lines. Men are simply more genetically predisposed to combat than women, we are more aggressive, emotionally detached, and physically strong than women and there is no denying that, and it is really not something women should try to emulate.  Sure their are women who are capable of this but most are not, and most shouldn’t want to be.  I think its a shame that women like RAM35520 are looked down upon by “feminists” because they want men to be men and women to be women.  I’m not gonna lie feminists scare me as a man because I feel if they had their way women would be women, women would be men, and men would pushed out of the way because at our current technology women don’t even need a man to reproduce.  The older I get the more I feel like I’m not allowed to be a man, its sexist to hold open doors and be polite to women, chivalry is considered and attack on a women’s independence, and now i’m not even allowed to spare women the horrors of war because she thinks she can war better than me.  The worst part is that these “feminists” don’t want equality they want more money and power, if they really wanted to be equal they would address the fact that in divorces women are much more likely to get custody of children than men, or that if a woman  were to attack me and I fight back I would go to prison for 5 years and the woman would get a huge cash settlement.  Maybe they would address that men have to pay alimony plus divide their assets in a divorce (usually with the women getting much more than half), and maybe they would look at all of the careers that are predominately women and try to get more men in them so that there is “equality”.  No, as a white male I am the default american, I have no special organization looking out for me, I get no special scholarships for my education, I am the the only group that suffers from affirmative action, and although almost everything I do is   said to be racist or sexist nothing done to me can be considered as such.  And I have seen posts like this get flamed by women and by men being kiss asses, so apparently I am not even allowed to complain.

your a snivelling sack of crap. half these women are ore of a man then you could ever amount to. you’ve probably been shown up by one of us and thats why you speak so lowly of ladies. 

men, don’t freak out if you see a woman die! That shouldn’t effect you whatsoever. The women voluntarily joined the military, she voluntarily took the risks of getting kidnapped, raped, tortured and most of all death.. If she dies, she chose to cause she wanted to fight for our country! If she wants to fight for our country, let her, it should be her choice anyway, so don’t feel bad.. It’s as simple as that.. 

Well said!! Thank you for pointing out the men have their own faults too! Especially when you said quote ‘IT WOULD BE A DISTRACTION BECAUSE THAT’S JUST HOW MEN ARE, NO NEED TO BLAME THE WOMEN BECAUSE IT’S US.’ And also, I’m sure women are well aware they are required to pass their tests, but they know they will have to deal w/on going disrespect from their male commrades  & they must continually prove themselves everyday to everyone they can do their job.. In the meantime, women will experience disrespect & battle sexist opinions and behaviors, but since they voluntarily joined the service, the women should just suck it up, do their best to serve our country and continue to be an example of generations of tomorrow.. 

Wow! You must be one of the rare few who can handle every aspect of combat! I applaud you Emseekay in being an example to show young women every where that they too can push themselves beyond limitations, sexist stereotypes & society’s gender expectations! We support you & cheer you on!!

P.s. Thank you for serving our country! Your bravery and determination to protect the people of the US is appreciated immensely!!

What a shame that you got to see the 90% of the females in the Corps. You say females are one of 2 things. and honestly I am sure you are right, however I have watched males Marines shrink in fear and fail to do their job. So don’t say its just women that can’t handle it. It is more the mentality you have. Pulling a trigger is just that, and a man or a woman can do it. If you can’t do it weither you are male or female you are in the wrong line of work.

I know I cannot watch someone die, I know that I wouldnt want your job. But, I admire from afar, support where I can, and know that our troops (male or female) are truly the most amazing people I know (whore or not) for risking their lives. I cannot say I condone woman in combat, but if they feel compelled to who are we to stop it?

A whore? How about the men who sleep with her? Are they all whores too or does it not count to you when a man decides it’s ok to sleep with a shit load of women.

I agree that women will eventually be on the front lines(they already are just not formally in combat MOSs), either now or 20 yrs from now and everyone knows it and to deny it is just plain stupid. But I will say that women should be held to the same standards as the men, it’s only fair. Also women should be in all female units, not because of them but because of the males. I’m not sexist( I’m a guy ) but men just wouldn’t treat them right, I’m sorry that’s just how it is. There would be alot of rape cases, sexual harassment, and men just wouldn’t respect them as equals as you can see in their posts. And also we men aren’t the smartest of beings for one major reason, we have 2 heads and we don’t think with the one on our shoulders. It would be a distraction because that’s just how men are, no need to blame the women because it’s us. Regardless of professionalism it will always be in the back of their minds. And chivalry is dead in the military especially the infantry as you can obviously see from the posts from the grunts. The men just don’t know how to treat a female marine(as an equal) and honestly the women don’t deserve to deal with that bullshit. Discrimination and ignorance towards change takes time to fade so for now they would have to be separated in combat units but later could be integrated. Just my 2 cents from an ex marine grunt. If a woman is willing to fight and die for her country like I am and can meet the same pt standards as I do then I don’t give a damn let her fight. She would have more balls than 99.9% of male civilians and 70% more balls than male service members because not all
men have what it takes. That’s my insight take it or leave, I doubt this will change anyone’s ignorance but we all know this change is coming, I just hope they make it fair for both genders. We defend a land equal opportunity well let actually practice it for a change.

Humans have no instincts, only impulses and urges. This ‘instinctive’ behaviour is merely a cultural thing, how come other men from other countries have no qualms about hitting women? Surely if it was ‘instinct’ all men would have this ‘instinct’? An instinct is an innate pattern of behaviour in a species, this behaviour is not inborn but merely learned.

^ obvious troll is ovbvious, gtfo.

I’m in the F.R.Navy I didn’t known the combat of fire on the ground but I was in Afghanistan in 2010 and Libya in 2011. I believe that the women must remain behind the lines because the men are not ready to support the constraint of the women to the lines even if physically and mentally there are worth us.
I join the Ben’s opinion. 

In an ideal situation, the women in the Marine Corps who have proven that they physically can go toe-to-toe with their male counterparts on the front lines of battle, shouldn’t be restricted from doing so.  Also, logic tells us that in the name of ‘equality’, males in the military should be expected to view the females who are fighting next to them, not as women, but as simply a member of their squad. These men should have the self-discipline to turn off any sexual urges they may have and focus 100% of their energy on their assigned task, despite any conditions of being isolated from females for months on end.  Likewise, they should be expected to deprogram themselves of any instinctive ‘man protect woman’ impulses they may have which could compromise the mission or the well-being of the squad and they should have no problem removing/dismissing any resentment or other underlying feelings they may have been raised with that tell them women aren’t supposed to be fighting in combat.

But the world we live in is NOT ideal and it never will be.
As women, we can protest; cry ‘foul’ and be unrelenting in our demands, all in the name of equality and at some point, the end goal of women being allowed to fight on the front lines with men can be accomplished.  However, it is incredibly naive to believe that doing so will not, to some extent, wreak havoc  within the squad and have a negative impact on it’s ability to complete the tasks at hand: Enemy combat- a life or death situation. �
Men and women are not designed the same from a biological standpoint.  For about 5 days, every 28 days, women have periods and there are no ‘time-outs’ in the middle of combat which would allow her to change tampons, etc. (yes, there are forms of birth control that can eliminate periods for a few months but they involve hormones that result in weight gain and other physical changes that would likely hinder her ability to remain on equal ground with the men physically)… and men have hormonal issues that need to be addressed, too.  Testosterone levels are higher than any other time in a man’s life somewhere around the ages of 18-25 or so. That’s a bonus when they need to be aggressive in combat… but it also, by nature, causes them to be horny pretty much constantly and while I’m not suggesting that they act on those feelings whenever they are able to, having a female in the ranks with them WILL create a distraction in even the most disciplined (heterosexual) Marine. Nothing will be able to change this, and it will affect the overall strength of the unit.
Complications and complaints/accusations will soon follow when they all should be focusing on combat- not sexual harassment suits being filed.
Having all-female troops would be putting a big target over all of them
because our enemies would focus on capturing them and then beating and
raping them and using them like chess pawns to negotiate with our
government.  Remember- most of our enemies see women as second class
citizens.
Is any of this fair to the women who have proven that they’ve got what it takes to get out there and fight with the men?�
No. But ladies, as much as I believe in your (our) capabilities and that we SHOULD be able to fight in combat… fair or unfair… it is just not in our best interests as a nation.

Hello im 18 and in the US Marine Corps. Femals Shouldnt be allowed in combat like the infantry. Woman are not onky weaker and slower but there bodys are more fragile. Mens body in ment to get bettings and womens are just not to. Now do i support MOS’s like a pilot, Hell yes they do have steadyer head then we do and with the mind set they have the same as us. they can live with the stress of any job. But doing some of infantry traning and watch the rest of our infantry train. Its a lot harder then anyone thinks. What im saying is i dont think the sould be taking toldy out of the fight but not be toldy in the line of fire either.